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  Grocery Store conversation with an elder

  by problemaddict 2 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i'm inactive here to the local jw's as i have faded.

  i've been slandered and all that, shunned by some but not all, but the elders basically leave me alone.

  i still run into to people all over though.

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  Yeah.....I wouldn't have said that mainly because hes 4......and also just because it was a bit of a snark. I was making a point that was WAY out of the atmosphere for a young boy, and i do try to teach him to be respectful. I introduced my son to him as someone his father knew. So yeah....lots of reasons to make sure he wasn't in ear shot. He always picks the potatoes. 3 colors......I make him count a certain amount of each. So hes in eye shot, and takes him a minute. I only needed a few seconds. :)
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  Stupid, stupid nonsense in the October JW broadcast

  by sir82 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so in the october jw broadcast, there is a "morning worship" segment in which g. jackson goes to great lengths to explain how the term "those taking the lead" are not "leaders".. the terms are exactly equivalent, of course, but jackson, with a wink & smirk, pats himself on the back for his own cleverness on how different they really are.it's just so bizarrely absurd.. imagine if such tortured reasoning were applied to other areas..... -------------------------------------.

  restaurant manager: i'm sorry, the only position we have open is for dishwasher.

  applicant: that's insulting!

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  Well.....I haven't read it......but they are actually sort of right. The context of that scripture matters, and the translation is open.

  I would argue the meaning of "taking the lead" in this verse, has nothing to do with position. It has to do with who serves others the most. The person who "is last", it seems.......is taking the lead in the congregation.

  I doubt however that was his point.
  
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  "The shootings in Las Vegas show how much we need God's Kingdom"

  by Sour Grapes in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  my jw wife, like all of us, was saddened by the senseless killings in nevada.

  she said, "the shootings just shows how much we need god's kingdom.

  " i replied, "yes if it was armageddon, jehovah wouldn't have left any survivors.

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  Even JW's I know with more common sense than most are falling for the "something is happening" narrative. Because its on the news, close to home, etc...

  Earthquakes, hurricanes, and now a shooting......all CLOSE BY. Its amazing how our proximity to tragedy directly relates to how bad we think the entire world is.

  But.....how do you deal with that? Hey.....2,000 babies under the age of 2 died today. And yesterday. So you know......every day is a tregedy in some ways. But 50 years ago it was 6,000 a day. So......Improvement right?
  
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  Grocery Store conversation with an elder

  by problemaddict 2 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i'm inactive here to the local jw's as i have faded.

  i've been slandered and all that, shunned by some but not all, but the elders basically leave me alone.

  i still run into to people all over though.

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  I'll be honest......it was gratifying.

  So of course my son did not hear me. I teach him to respect everyone, especially the mentally ill. (little joke there)

  In his defense, he is a young elder, and we knew each other for years. But he is also very by the book.....he once asked me why I don't just DA myself.

  He.....and everybody......know I am not attending, and will not attend. My "inactive" status is really just a technicality that allows me to still openly speak with others. As a result.....I have been able to help some start their own journey out.

  Of course I am celebrating my sons birthday......but I'll be damned if I will tell him that. That was sort of the entire point. He didn't get an answer he could use, and if i run into him or any of them.....they will think twice before prying. Its all about getting them to not think of me as a lost sheep....but as a grown ass man just like all of the rest of them that they run into.....and don't ask prying questions of.
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  Grocery Store conversation with an elder

  by problemaddict 2 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i'm inactive here to the local jw's as i have faded.

  i've been slandered and all that, shunned by some but not all, but the elders basically leave me alone.

  i still run into to people all over though.

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  I'm inactive here to the local JW's as I have faded. I've been slandered and all that, shunned by some but not all, but the elders basically leave me alone. I still run into to people all over though. Lots of JW's in Cali. I ran into one young, now elder, in the local grocery store. I have known him for years.
  

  Me - Hey Frank (name isn't Frank). How are you?

  Frank - PA oh just busy doing well thank you.

  (small talk....weather...work...bananas)

  My kid - Did you know my birthday is in 1 week? I'm turning 5. **runs to get me potatoes**

  Frank - Do you guys celebrate his birthday?

  Me - Do you continue to masturbate while now serving the congregation?

  Frank - WHAT!?!?

  Me - Oh......I just thought we were trading questions that were none of the other persons business. My bad. Alright bud....good luck with those green bananas being ripe by tomorrow. **Pats on shoulder.

  That felt good. Just kind of happened.
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  JW Stumper Questions - List You Best Here

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hi guys.

  sooner or later we're going to get a jw knocking on our door.

  just like when we were jw's doing the knocking, it's good to have a question prepared to get them thinking about their own beliefs.

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  A lot of great ones here. I wonder like Cofey though if any of these would really wake someone up? Some of these I would have eaten alive in my JW apologist years. What might get people to think?

  I liked this one.

  Do you believe in freedom of religion?"
  

  (yes of course)

  "Then why do you not speak to people when they quit your religion?"

  Simple and puts them on the spot. They will either have to lie, write you off, or be uncomfortable. If you do it with kindness and sincerity....could have an effect?
  
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  BREAKING NEWS out of Canada

  by Newly Enlightened in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  jwvictims.org has another breaking news article out of canada: https://jwvictims.org/2017/10/02/breaking-news-66-million-class-action-suit-request-filed-against-jws-in-canada/.

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  Interesting. 66M for ALL abuse victims in all of Canada seems a bit on the light side. I would expect them to offer a bargain and in the end feel like they saved some money. This comment from the article was odd.

  The suit also notes the prohibition against group therapy or counseling, to protect the confidentiality of others in the congregation.

  Technically there is NO prohibition on counsel. Maybe some nuddging against it (as we all know is part of the culture), but nothing overt.
  
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  The boys in Pennsylvania- The real power behind Watchtower

  by UnshackleTheChains in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am quite interested in something mike and kim said in their video when talking about why their you tube videos are being taken down.

  in their video below, at around 35 seconds.

  mike say's that he has being trying to tell people that the boys in pennsylvania are the real power behind watchtower - not the governing body?.

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  So here is a thought. This is kind of a nothing-burger. Here is why. The way corporations work in the USA this makes perfect sense. So they have removed the "religious leaders" so to speak from the corporate board, which requires votes, meeting on minutes, and prone to audit, etc.... (which takes time and is really just mostly nonsense), and placed people charged with handling that burden or corporate leadership for their 501C3.

  I don't think any of us however ACTUALLY believe that the GB is not making decisions in the end. Nor do I think its safe to say, that the board acts independantly from the religions leadership. For technical purposes, the greasy guts might be in the corp registered (but not neccesarily physically located) in Penn. However, the power lies with those who control the religion, and set its policies. That is the GB. End of story.

  So the "boys in Penn" act on the word of those whom they follow, and are in a leadership role only in as much as they fullfilling the dictates they have received and proven themselves loyal to the religion to be in that position. Anything beyond that kind of just borders on conspiracy theory.
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  Leah Remini Scientology series might tackle Jehovah's Witnesses in season 3

  by jp1692 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i've seen comments by some on leah's expose on scientology: aftermath.

  she actually won an emmy for this show.

  rumor is that she might take on jehovah's witnesses in season 3. .

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  Well...I hope its done right. Not sensationalized, which is easy to dismiss. For example this quote from the cited article....

  The unnamed contact told Remini she should be careful about Jehovah’s Witnesses, however, because “these f—ers are super powerful.”

  I call BS on that. Powerful how? Ridiculous.
  
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  A new step in my exit from the WT

  by Skepsis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if you remember, i've been posting here my subsequent steps from a regular pioneer and ms at the beginning of this year to a rank-and-file publisher after stepping down as ms two months ago.. during these months, i've been through a difficult way.

  but after every step, i could feel freer and better.

  i've met a person outside the wt that has changed my life forever and i have experienced a freedom of thought and an inner peace like never before.. however, i knew that staying in my hometown would make my fading very difficult.

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  I understand. I think you are doing it the correct way. Go to a few meetings. Do not however give them your cel phone, or address just yet. Just explain you will be getting a new one soon, or that you will be moving intoa new place blah blah. Then once your cards are there.......boom. Fade. Be patient. If you do it right, you will not regret it.